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Post by oldschool on May 20, 2008 10:15:27 GMT -5
Could it just be that IPW is the leader of the pack that has a target on it's back for everyone to try and knock off ?? Are could it just be some old jealousy fact ?? Only time will be the answer to this .
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Post by ipwgreg on May 20, 2008 14:21:45 GMT -5
I can understand wanting to be "The Best" and I am not so conceited to say we are the best. Let the fans say that. But to use the underhanded tactics that have been used is wrong.
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Post by oldschool on May 20, 2008 18:34:58 GMT -5
Now is this not the tactic that has been around for a long time in this business ?? And , YES , Greg , I can only agree with you ( as much as I hate too) but when things all come out in the end , the FANS will always be the fact of success to any organization in this business . And differing opinions do not receive equal acknowledgment without contradiction! But unflattering portrayal of others or a subject is due to own words or deeds , then so be it let things just sabotaged the game and being unprofessional conduct has been a commonplace with the underminding of the art of the game . They are destroying themselves and their careers in more ways than one with this portrayal of business .
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Post by russ on May 21, 2008 23:24:16 GMT -5
My question is, why is my group constantly being attacked by another promoter? When we "retaliate" then they cry foul. Oh, Greg... everybody knows you're just jealous LMAO
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Post by russ on May 21, 2008 23:27:59 GMT -5
But to use the underhanded tactics that have been used is wrong. I have to agree with oldschool... there is nothing more "old school" than promoters playing dirty tricks on each other, ripping down advertising, getting them kicked out of buildings, etc. Although, I've devised a few of my own just in casual observation of this message board, which I'm sure you have already thought of as well. You're a lot better connected than I am...
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Post by russ on Jun 8, 2008 21:56:43 GMT -5
Saturday night June 7th @ Valley Mills Christian Church June 21st & 22nd @ The Marion County Fairgrounds for Gauge Magazine's Slamology Car Show. Saturday, June 28th School #109 in Indianapolis, Located at 30th & High School road. will list the excat address soon. Okay, so there's one show that didn't happen as advertised... the weather should not have been a factor as Marion County did not have a weather emergency and IPW demonstrated that a show could still be run... they had the interstates open in time to get the talent up here. I just think it's interesting that for all of Cruz's talk that he suddenly is quiet now that he's realizing that he can't deliver what he promised. And yeah, maybe I'm stirring the pot by bringing this up again, but when I'm right, I like for it to be known. And, to be honest, is anyone on this board going to this car show? I'm pretty sure that I won't... who's to say that he'll appear there and no one will be able to corroborate it. I wish I had media credentials... Also, I wanted to address something else that Cruz repeatedly told me during negotiations to work for him and has mentioned on this board... he goes on and on about how the IPW audience is all smart marks. Now, I realize I'm not going to become an IPW evangelist simply by going to just one show, but I saw maybe six or seven people behaving in that kind of way, and even then, it was more innocent than the "You F'd Up" kind of chants that the "smart mark" tag connotes. What I saw last night were people of all ages and from many different walks of life enjoying a wrestling show, the same as what I've seen at many shows in the past around the area. I think that was an unfair tag for him to give IPW's fans and it further shows how he's going to alienate his audience simply by being himself. He should have took a page out of his buddy Kincaid's book and at least tried to run the organization in secret or with someone else fronting for him.
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Post by coldasastone316 on Jun 9, 2008 11:10:31 GMT -5
It is kind of funny that nothing has been heard of Cruz in quite awhile. Have we seen the last of him? Russ, Now you have seen what all of us IPW fans have said before. They put on one hell of a show, glad that you were able to make it out.
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Post by oldschool on Jun 9, 2008 12:46:31 GMT -5
Maybe TNW , will take over all the talent that WWA has, being their using them all at the Fortville show this June 16 .
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Post by russ on Jun 9, 2008 14:15:12 GMT -5
You know, I noticed that too... they are using all the WWA talent, so maybe they are getting some work to replace those bookings. Also, Cruz was planning on running at the Jennings Elementary on the west side where TNW used to run, so maybe there is more to that story.
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Post by oldschool on Jun 9, 2008 17:06:15 GMT -5
I do believe your RIGHT on that point .
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